tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7436812892124383603.post3305528855308815358..comments2024-03-03T22:02:43.757-04:00Comments on Quiet Laughter: #BoTB: Por Mujeres Como Tú (aka The Mexican Chauvinist Anthem)Guilie Castillohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09006999087139126972noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7436812892124383603.post-4591668637273668682015-11-21T16:22:06.601-04:002015-11-21T16:22:06.601-04:00Hehehehehe... I'm sure Pepe would be devastate...Hehehehehe... I'm sure Pepe would be devastated to be called pretty, in any sense :D (But you're right, FAE; his version is a tad too studied, especially in the context of raw heartbreak.) Another vote for underdogs Poder del Norte!Guilie Castillohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09006999087139126972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7436812892124383603.post-71721417576766147152015-11-21T16:20:35.358-04:002015-11-21T16:20:35.358-04:00I'm so sorry for making the voting harder, Rob...I'm so sorry for making the voting harder, Robin... I wasn't trying to establish guidelines for it, just wanted to provide some food for thought, as it were... sorry for that. Loved the *thumbs nose* description :D And another vote for the Norteño guys!<br /><br />Thanks, Robin!Guilie Castillohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09006999087139126972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7436812892124383603.post-77649793255883743172015-11-21T16:18:25.973-04:002015-11-21T16:18:25.973-04:00Very cool, John! Your vote for the Norte dudes has...Very cool, John! Your vote for the Norte dudes has been entered—and thank you!Guilie Castillohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09006999087139126972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7436812892124383603.post-15228886396989686952015-11-21T16:17:44.810-04:002015-11-21T16:17:44.810-04:00No worries, Cathy! It's an easy name to misspe...No worries, Cathy! It's an easy name to misspell :D Mr. Aguilar certainly has the voice to make us all swoon... Your vote for him is recorded!Guilie Castillohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09006999087139126972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7436812892124383603.post-53273192958434570592015-11-19T15:43:51.889-04:002015-11-19T15:43:51.889-04:00Give my vote to El Poder Del Norte, definitely sou...Give my vote to El Poder Del Norte, definitely sounds more like men embracing a bottle of tequilla at the cantina. Pepe's version is a bit too pretty to convey the images you spoke of.farawayeyeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17578277501054242356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7436812892124383603.post-13992602679046194002015-11-19T11:56:00.267-04:002015-11-19T11:56:00.267-04:00This was very informative as a BoTB post. I had no...This was very informative as a BoTB post. I had no idea ranchera music = mariachi music (until now). I also was unaware of this particular dynamic of the culture. (Alas, all cultures seem to have some unhealthy dynamic going on...)<br /><br />This battle is particularly tough in that you've asked us to evaluate the song from several different perspectives. Which sounds more heartbroken? Definitely Pepe. If I didn't know what the lyrics meant, I'd be able to tell the first one was a sad song. The other one... not at all. It sounds rather happy actually, which is ironic now that I know the lyrics. Seems to me those guys are saying "I'll be biting my heart... not really. Look at the FUN I'm having! *thumbs nose*"<br /><br />Which version would I sit in a cantina and listen to on repeat? Definitely the second one. I don't think I could take all that sadness endlessly.<br /><br />So, I'm not really sure which of these criteria I should use to give you my vote. I think Pepe's version is better musically. His voice is better. It sounds more heartbroken. The second one is more fun and actually makes me think "mariachi music." If I can only vote for one... hmmm... decisions, decisions... I'll vote for El Poder Del Norte since you specified that in the vote we had to choose the one we'd listen to on repeat. That's the cantina I'd choose!Robinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14932408372240147454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7436812892124383603.post-49738600151925225602015-11-18T17:56:18.028-04:002015-11-18T17:56:18.028-04:00I'll give this to El Poder Del Norte. I though...I'll give this to El Poder Del Norte. I thought Pepe Aguilar's version dragged a little, plus El Poder had tuba and accordion in it. Brought me back to the old neighborhood in Chicago, which had its share of cantinas that played a lot of Norteño music. John Holtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00545030511941957804noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7436812892124383603.post-70682699240175484542015-11-17T23:06:15.200-04:002015-11-17T23:06:15.200-04:00Oops, I misspelled your name, dearie! I'm just...Oops, I misspelled your name, dearie! I'm just SO tired this evening and I didn't realize I left the "i" out. *smack forehead*. :(Cathy Kennedyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01056276734145310231noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7436812892124383603.post-59533621259724010962015-11-17T22:58:00.689-04:002015-11-17T22:58:00.689-04:00Guile, definitely my answer is (A) when I think of...Guile, definitely my answer is (A) when I think of a serenade. I think Pepe Aguilar sang like a man with a broken heart. Fabulous vocals. He almost stole my heart with his cover and he definitely steals my vote! lol Nice battle! Cathy Kennedyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01056276734145310231noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7436812892124383603.post-26405988020674750652015-11-17T19:00:07.566-04:002015-11-17T19:00:07.566-04:00No, not crazy at all, Jeffrey... There's defin...No, not crazy at all, Jeffrey... There's definite German / Prussian influence in Mexican folkloric music (polka is an actual <i>thing</i> in Mexico... go figure). And you're right, the mariachi sound has become a signature for Mexican stuff... Pepe would be honored :) Thanks for the vote!Guilie Castillohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09006999087139126972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7436812892124383603.post-63752075368835042972015-11-17T18:57:50.874-04:002015-11-17T18:57:50.874-04:00I'm so sorry, Susan! Was it only the sound tha...I'm so sorry, Susan! Was it only the sound that didn't work, or the video also? I'll try to find some other links for you to try. My apologies :(Guilie Castillohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09006999087139126972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7436812892124383603.post-61646802953978011062015-11-17T18:56:50.608-04:002015-11-17T18:56:50.608-04:00Hahaha... Madilyn, we'd have a blast if we eve...Hahaha... Madilyn, we'd have a blast if we ever met, I think :D Another vote for the <i>banda</i> guys — who love you for it, since they're getting hammered. (Pun not intended :D )Guilie Castillohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09006999087139126972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7436812892124383603.post-13503762662403837042015-11-17T18:55:31.904-04:002015-11-17T18:55:31.904-04:00I agree that prison-after-tequila story is not coi...I agree that prison-after-tequila story is <i>not</i> coincidence... That stuff brings out the evil gremlins, I swear. <br /><br />Sadly, that's about the only thing I can agree on with you here :D (Red Tabasco rules, man. <i>Rules</i>.)<br /><br />Thanks for the vote, Stephen! Pepe is killing the poor Norteño dudes... So much for that old adage about outnumbering the enemy, eh? Guilie Castillohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09006999087139126972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7436812892124383603.post-29599732560180670902015-11-17T18:10:16.970-04:002015-11-17T18:10:16.970-04:00I'm going with Pepe Aguilar on this one. For m...I'm going with Pepe Aguilar on this one. For me it sounded more Mexican ethnic. Call me crazy, but the second one (outside of the Spanish) sounded very much like a big German influence within the music. I almost felt like pouring myself a pint and shouting Prost! to everyone. Not that that's a bad thing. I rather love Oktoberfest. But for this battle, I'm voting what I feel sounds most Mexican to me. I caught the German influence in the first song a little, but not much.Jeffrey Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06973104877310669196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7436812892124383603.post-1939348112468756092015-11-17T15:53:50.652-04:002015-11-17T15:53:50.652-04:00I'll try again tomorrow - no sound from any o...I'll try again tomorrow - no sound from any of the 3 videos!Susan Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12041548718544123557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7436812892124383603.post-81556253009813261522015-11-17T14:49:57.542-04:002015-11-17T14:49:57.542-04:00Ok, so.. the first one seems more, sad? I suppose....Ok, so.. the first one seems more, sad? I suppose. But if I had to chose one to listen to on repeat while getting drunk, I'll have to go with the second one. I tend to get into this type of music when drinking, I have no idea why hahaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7436812892124383603.post-40474689140658349112015-11-16T21:24:36.599-04:002015-11-16T21:24:36.599-04:00HEY, BABY, QUE PASO?
>>... "Because of...HEY, BABY, QUE PASO?<br /><br /><i>>>... "Because of women like you"... But like what, exactly? What has she done? Nothing!</i><br /><br />Oh, don't kid yourself. She did PLENTY! He's just not mentioning it in order to save her reputation. But she's guilty as sin, believe you me! She was practically born guilty! [:o)}<br /><br />Someday I'm gonna use The Texas Tornados in a BOTB installment. My Brother turned me onto them years ago and I dig 'em. I have them in my Spotify collection.<br /><br />Well, in this Battle my vote goes to <b>PEPE</b>. I didn't really care for the lead singer's voice in the other. It was sort of vinegar-y like that red Tabasco sauce, rather than the green jalapeno Tabasco, which I greatly prefer.<br /><br />Tequila... Happy Poison. The only time I went to jail in Mexico, I had been drinking, and Drinking, and DRINKING Tequila. Coincidence? I don't think so! (Had I stuck with Tanqueray, Jack Daniels, and Cutty Sark, I'd have been OK.)<br /><br />~ D-FensDogG<br />'Loyal American Underground'Stephen T. McCarthyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00249125637725791567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7436812892124383603.post-69319224607683983362015-11-16T19:00:19.041-04:002015-11-16T19:00:19.041-04:00Thanks, Mike! Another vote for Mr. Aguilar!Thanks, Mike! Another vote for Mr. Aguilar!Guilie Castillohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09006999087139126972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7436812892124383603.post-80987645898453499732015-11-16T18:59:57.109-04:002015-11-16T18:59:57.109-04:00Hail, fellow geek and snarkasaurus! No, I've l...Hail, fellow geek and snarkasaurus! No, I've lots of dignity for lots of stuff... including <i>not dying over someone who left me</i>. Seriously :D<br /><br />I'm so glad you liked this, Cherdo! Yeah, lyrics really make a song for me, too, though it's not something conscious; I notice it most often with music in a foreign language, when I don't understand and feel something's missing. (Which is why I include the lyrics for these weird song choices, hehe.)<br /><br />Thanks for your vote! After a brief interlude, Pepe is back in full strength :)Guilie Castillohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09006999087139126972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7436812892124383603.post-88007243586476102102015-11-16T18:55:31.274-04:002015-11-16T18:55:31.274-04:00Donna, you must've lived in Mexico :D Yep, thr...Donna, you must've lived in Mexico :D Yep, three friends helping out the poor slob drunk and in love... Perfect description. (You're not weird. If you're weird, then I'm weird. Okay, poor argument.) YES on the spaghetti scene! Hahahahaa... Love that movie.<br /><br />Good point on the rhythm and emotion being more potent than the actual lyrics... I think you're right. The thing is, these songs aren't meant to sway the woman into forgiveness; they're an accusation, an indictment of her wrong-doing. <i>She's</i> at fault, she screwed up, she was disloyal or unfaithful or hard-hearted or whatever, so it's actually the man — from the man's perspective, of course — who should be doing the forgiving. These aren't romancing songs as much as post-break-up; an early version of drunk dialing, if you will :D So what gets me is that women consider it a badge of honor, of sorts, to have been sung one of these (or several)... As if that speaks to their female "prowess"... Mexico is a twisted country. I won't deny it :DGuilie Castillohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09006999087139126972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7436812892124383603.post-8960617960595024732015-11-16T18:48:57.291-04:002015-11-16T18:48:57.291-04:00Oh, and I'd try the accordion jam session thin...Oh, and I'd try the accordion jam session thing. These chauvinist "regulations" are paper thin in reality, and you won't be the first non-Mexican woman to shred them to bits. (Which the men tend to love, somehow. It's all a twisted psycho power struggle, if you ask me. And, deep down, they know who's boss :D )Guilie Castillohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09006999087139126972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7436812892124383603.post-84038095606282273672015-11-16T18:45:19.987-04:002015-11-16T18:45:19.987-04:00"Nostalgically romantic (yuck)"—you echo..."Nostalgically romantic (yuck)"—you echo my feelings exactly, Dixie :D And Norteño as heartbreak group therapy is <i>brilliant!!!!!</i> Thank you for the compliments... After feeling this close to a shut-out, I'm thrilled to hear it—and to record your vote for Poder del Norte!!! Thanks, Dixie! The <i>banda</i> boys (which is nothing like the Venga Boys) appreciate it ;)Guilie Castillohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09006999087139126972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7436812892124383603.post-41544170441090592322015-11-16T18:38:28.915-04:002015-11-16T18:38:28.915-04:00LOL, Birgit... "his heartbreak over the lost ...LOL, Birgit... "his heartbreak over the lost steak he didn't get"—love it :D And the German Oom-Pa-Pa describes Norteño <i>exactly</i>, hahahaha... In Mexico we call it <i>Choon-ta-ta</i>—close enough :D And yes, tequila makes one do strange, strange things. The hangover's pretty bad, too... Though I'm not sure if it's the physiological or psychological effects that are most devastating :D<br /><br />Thanks for the visit! One more vote for Pepe! (Will this be the first shut-out on Quiet Laughter? Hmmmm...)Guilie Castillohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09006999087139126972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7436812892124383603.post-15528345845048421402015-11-16T18:34:14.555-04:002015-11-16T18:34:14.555-04:00Great reasoning, Michele. Yup, I agree... The Nort...Great reasoning, Michele. Yup, I agree... The Norteño guys sound like a party, and I think I'd choose that bar, too. But it doesn't really meet the wallowing-in-a-broken-heart situation, does it? Cool. One more vote for Mr. Aguilar :)Guilie Castillohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09006999087139126972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7436812892124383603.post-86015171520330892762015-11-16T18:32:27.945-04:002015-11-16T18:32:27.945-04:00I MISS JOHN CANDY, TOO!!!!!!!
Vote #3 for Pepe ha...I MISS JOHN CANDY, TOO!!!!!!!<br /><br />Vote #3 for Pepe has been duly recorded, fellow J-Candy fan ;)Guilie Castillohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09006999087139126972noreply@blogger.com